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I have had a manual Eclipse Crossover for 6 months, from day one I stalled when pulling away from junctions and it was even worse reversing particularly up hill. I eventually went to the garage to be told that this was down to the setup of how the power was designed for the car and was normal. Is it normal? my wife stalls as well after 6 months. The only solution is to rev the car highly and pull away like a boy racer.:sad:
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I can't say I know much about the design of the clutch, but the idea of having a manual transmission is that you CONTROL clutch engagement and shifts, as opposed to a TCU doing so with an auto.
Anyway, obviously apples to oranges, but...

I would ask that shop if there's a way to adjust the clutch cable. If you're stalling unnecessarily, it may be that your clutch is disengaging abnormally - which could mean a loose clutch cable. And hopefully that's the only reason for that.
Because matching "setup of how power was designed" (my interpretation being "throttle match") is only really applicable to A/Ts. Like you said, it's the driver that compensates for that clutch engagement to match the accelerator engagement in a M/T.

I would, of course, have your Service Dept check it out to see if anything's abnormal. You might even be surprised to find that, perhaps, it's something else that's causing your engine to stall. Like, perhaps, a dirty intake, or corroded terminals (which affects throttle response to a small degree... remember, we're all Drive-By-Wire these days).
Why not use that warranty as much as you can, as opposed to paying for someone to diagnose it ;)

Good luck.
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I have had a manual Eclipse Crossover for 6 months, from day one I stalled when pulling away from junctions and it was even worse reversing particularly up hill. I eventually went to the garage to be told that this was down to the setup of how the power was designed for the car and was normal. Is it normal? my wife stalls as well after 6 months. The only solution is to rev the car highly and pull away like a boy racer.:sad:
Hi Trofarth,
I know exactly what you mean. I have a slight slope to reverse up onto the road and can stall the engine quite easily.
Getting used to it now and like you give the engine extra revs to making sure to avoid a stall.
Hi, I had my car in for its annual service and mentioned this stall problem to the service receptionist, and said I believe there is a software update to cure this problem with manual gearbox models.
I'm delighted to report that the software update was applied, and the problem has been cured completely. As it was, I was very pleased with the car anyway, and had compensated to overcome the stall problem by giving the engine extra revs when moving off, to avoid any possible stall situation. This action is now not necessary, and the car is an absolute pleasure to drive.
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Hi,
i have asked my dealer about this software update as i have same issue with stalling, as yet they have not come back to me. do you have any details on the software update or could you tell me which dealer you went to in order to get it please?
Hi Trevster,
My dealer is located in Linwood. Paisley, Scotland, which about 12 months ago joined the Arnold Clark Group of companies. Fortunately the same staff from the previous owners were retained, and still work for the Mitsubishi franchise.
When I mentioned the problem at the service reception, they seemed to know about the issue and would check the car and try rectify the problem.
I'm not sure if there is a service bulletin for the issue, but understand there is a software update, but whatever they did certainly cured the problem completely.
Hope you can get your dealer to sort the annoying condition for you, but if not, let me know, and I will see if I can get more information for you from my Dealership.
Hi, thanks for the response. After contacting mitsubishi UK they confirmed there is a rewrite that should help. My car is booked in for the update next week, I'll post the outcome once I get the car back. Thanks again.
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Hi, thanks for the response. After contacting mitsubishi UK they confirmed there is a rewrite that should help. My car is booked in for the update next week, I'll post the outcome once I get the car back. Thanks again.
That's good and fingers crossed the problem will be sorted. Good to hear that Mitsubishi UK responded to you and confirmed there is a rewrite to correct the fault. I can assure you that it works and makes driving the car so much better to drive, instead of having to concentrate when moving off, especially on hill starts etc.
I collected my car from dealer few days ago and it drives like a different car. Apparently the dealer fitted a modified clutch cover under warranty. before it went in it was stalling at times and you could feel each gear when changing up, now gear changes are smoother and i haven't stalled it yet so much more confident when pulling across traffic.
Ah!! A good result, Hopefully they also applied the upgraded software for the stall problem as well.. I have found mine a different car also, after the software upgrade for the throttle control.
Now you can thoroughly enjoy your car without the extra concentration needed before for the throttle control, when moving off or at roundabouts etc.:LOL:
Hi new member I have same problem booked inn for it doing on warranty at mitsubishi jct 600 bradford told them of fault and how it was common and they should have update or re write said they did not know of problem and if I take it in its £180 per hour good warranty what do you think i said no way
Hi new member I have same problem booked inn for it doing on warranty at mitsubishi jct 600 bradford told them of fault and how it was common and they should have update or re write said they did not know of problem and if I take it in its £180 per hour good warranty what do you think i said no way
Hi, I have 2019 manual eclipse cross and it would either stall or over rev when pulling away in first gear, I asked my dealer for help and mitsubishi eventually fitted a modified clutch cover, not sure if they updated any software regarding throttle response, but it drives much better since. Ask your dealer to contact mitsubishi UK for you if they can't resolve the issue under warranty hopefully they will get to the bottom of it without the huge labour charge as they did mine.
Just had an ecu rewrite and clutch plate replaced under warranty and the car drives great
No stalling clutch bite and no gear grind or sticking
Just got to push them really hard to get it carried out and yes they have a tech bulletin telling them they can do it but only if you complain
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Just had an ecu rewrite and clutch plate replaced under warranty and the car drives great
No stalling clutch bite and no gear grind or sticking
Just got to push them really hard to get it carried out and yes they have a tech bulletin telling them they can do it but only if you complain
Hi there
I have a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 2019. I have notice that it is a struggle to drive up hill, I keep stalling and rev every time I start the car. I took it to the dealer and at my surprise I was told that it is the wear and tear of the clutch and it is not covered under warranty. They told me that they could only fit the clutch cover under warranty but I have to pay for the clutch cylinder and disk for a total of £640. Also that the parts won’t be available until end of November. As a key worker I rely on my car. Now I am there and been using taxi and public transport to go to work. I am physically and mentally exhausted. I work 12 hours shifts plus hours on the public transport. Can anyone help me and tell me what to do? Do you think it will make a difference if I just tell them to fit the clutch cover only. Where can I find the tech bulletin please. I will appreciate if you can please advise me on anything.
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You are being taken to the cleaners. Fact No1, there is a software rewrite update for the Throttle Control, which cures the stall problem. Your dealer should know all about this, and would appear to be totally incompetent not to know of this update. A direct call to Mitsubishi UK will confirm that this is available and also what follows re clutch problems.
This update stall has been available for over 2 years now.
Fact No2. Also many people have experienced difficulty in engaging second gear, which sometimes requires a modified clutch assemble to be fitted to rectify the problem. But not in all cases. Again this is a know problem, and a service bulletin is available dealing with this fault plus the job is covered by the warranty programme. Sometimes however, a simple bleed of the clutch operating system, which clears any air which maybe in the hydraulics, is sufficient to cure this clutch related problem. Do not take no from your dealer on either of these subjects, and, if they still will not cooperate, phone Mitsubishi UK and make a formal complaint.
Hope you can make headway on your problem and wish you all the best in getting things sorted out. Some of these dealers need a boot up the. well you know where..
PS
There are a number of posts dealing with this clutch problem and if you look through back posts you will come across them and the action taken by fellow forum members in resolving their particular problems. T.
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Hi All,
I'm relatively new to this forum but I note all the posts in this thread with interest.

My wife and I have a 2018 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross First Edition 2WD which we bought as a 10 month old in the summer of 2019 from Leven Mitsubishi in Edinburgh, now taken over by Macklin Motors (Hyundai - Calder Road). Lovely well specified car but we both noticed similar issues to those described above. I have mentioned this to Macklins on the occasion of the last two services, most recently in May/June of this year to be told that there was nothing wrong. Very recently the last straw came for us when my wife attempted a hill start on a steep slope to get no response from the throttle resulting in the car rolling back in to a wall causing significant damage to the rear bumper, but luckily to nothing or no-one else! I attempted to move the car which was still running to confirm a completely unresponsive throttle ie unable to rev the engine above idle. I switched off and then on again and, hey presto, the throttle was back.

I recounted this to the representative (Moira) at Macklins who offered to book the car in for a diagnostic which would cost me £126 if no fault was found, showing little concern for what had happened. Given that the MIL light never came on at the time, and that my OBD tool didn't show any faults I decided not to risk just losing £126 to be no further forward. I have confirmed no loose connections and that the absolute and relative throttle readings looked ok (unfortunately whilst the car was behaving itself) so I'm a bit puzzled other than to be confident that this software update hasn't been applied to my vehicle.

I'm sure a throttle body/potentiometer fault would have been permanent, so I've no real idea as to what this problem is and whether or not it will recur. There are also occurrences of "BSW temporarily unavailable" and unexpected "Brake" messages which I think are probably unrelated but mentioned here for completeness.

Given that my wife has understandably been spooked by this event, and the inability to form a real conclusion the likelihood at this stage is that we will regrettably move the car on. My observations on Macklins, Calder Road are that they no longer care about Mitsubishi, with the exception of an excellent parts representative, causing me to cancel my service plan I had with them.

All comments are welcomed.
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Bob
If you haven’t had the rev or clutch upgrade done then I would go for that firstly as it’s all free !!!
then point out to them your worries about the car !! It should be checked underwarranty
I had the same problem with a Nissan that as I went to pull off I got no revs or drive ? I had to change that straight away as the good old no problem found ??
You won't get a fault code since the original software is doing exactly what it's been written to do. That's the issue -- the original programming is the problem, but can be updated which seems to fix it for most people.
Hello Kevg,
I am currently having problems with my dealer and Mitsubishi concerning a clutch failure in my car. I have had my car for 2 years since new and done 14.5k miles. Its a 1500 2WD Petrol 2019 model. I had the software rewrite and gearbox oil change done to help the Stall issue and Gearchange issue, within weeks of receiving the car. I also had strong burning smell in the car, but this was put down to being a new car.
The dealer now wants £750 for a strip-down and inspection leading to £1600 for a replacement clutch if no faults are found. Mitsubishi are adamant that I need to agree to this before anything gets done to prove anything.
I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of finding any reference numbers for 'Service Bulletin's' that are there for the free clutch work.
I mentioned all this and the German petition to Mitsubishi but it didn't alter there position.
I've had another quote from my local garage of £1100 to replace it, but don't know if Mitsubishi would deal with them or if it needs to be a dealer.
Any help would be appreciative!
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On dealerships they will try to make you pay for everything they do ? It’s well within warranty I'm surprised they’ve not done the cage modification then they would/should have checked the clutch plate during the process of changing the cage ?
the oil had some benefit but the cage made a good change! Still far from being great but the gear selection is better but revs after everything is better but still hard to get the bite on a clutch pedal ?
hope this helps ?
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