Eclipse Cross PHEV outlet power plug

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AANZ

Discussion Starter · Aug 18, 2021

Some news articles refer to the Eclipse Cross PHEV's traction battery capable of being used as a source of electricity in an emergency. It can supply power to a general household.

Is the 240V power plug in the boot a standard feature❓

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Telferstr

· #2 · Aug 18, 2021

Mmmmmmmm, We are now deprived of new Mitsubishi products because I believe by dictats from Renault and Nissan. The sooner Mitsubishi can ditch those two the sooner the better, and be their own boss once again. The better it will be for Mitsubishi, and its customer base.

zarbs

· #3 · Aug 22, 2021 (Edited)

AANZ said:
Some news articles refer to the Eclipse Cross PHEV's traction battery capable of being used as a source of electricity in an emergency. It can supply power to a general household.

Is the 240V power plug in the boot a standard feature❓

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Not much info around as yet on this model. Try checking the manuals for the Outlander PHEV to see what features it offers. May have the same option there that you can read in the manuals. There are a number of Outlander PHEV manuals here:

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV: User Manuals — MMC Manuals

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Owner's Manuals. Catalogs, Specifications, Periodic Maintenance Maps.

mmc-manuals.ru

Download the 2020 Euro manual:

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/user/Owners_Manual_Outlander_PHEV_2020_EUR.pdf

It has a detailed explanation of the 240 volt AC outlet starting at page 8-77 though the Outlander also has a 240 v outlet at the rear of the centre console. The EC PHEV should be similar if not identical though they show the outlet as a standard Euro power plug which will differ here in Australia and the USA. Listed in that manual as only 1500 watts so not a great deal of use overall. Good for powering household appliances that have a low power draw.

It is not recommended for connection to a household for power draw. There are many caveats listed in the manual regarding its use. I see its usefulness as limited. Once you deplete the battery power the engine starts automatically and uses fuel to provide power to the appliance(s) connected.

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DibbyDibbyDJ

· #4 · Aug 27, 2021

AANZ said:
Some news articles refer to the Eclipse Cross PHEV's traction battery capable of being used as a source of electricity in an emergency. It can supply power to a general household.

Is the 240V power plug in the boot a standard feature❓

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No, not even sure if it is an option for Straya

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GaganKeshav

· #5 · Aug 28, 2021

I test drove the PHEV about 2 weeks ago and am awaiting delivery of the same in November. I did confirm, at-least here in NZ, we are not being given the 1500W power socket version.

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Phever

· #6 · Sep 5, 2021

Waiting on delivery of a PHEV. I contacted Mitsi head office in NZ and they too confirmed NO power socket on NZ models. They also replied that a socket could not be retro fitted. I had wondered if these vehicles come out of the factory all with the same loom meaning that there could potentially be a connector available behind the panels/trim. Perhaps I'm being a bit simplistic!!

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AANZ

Discussion Starter · #7 · Sep 5, 2021

Phever said:
Waiting on delivery of a PHEV. I contacted Mitsi head office in NZ and they too confirmed NO power socket on NZ models. They also replied that a socket could not be retro fitted. I had wondered if these vehicles come out of the factory all with the same loom meaning that there could potentially be a connector available behind the panels/trim. Perhaps I'm being a bit simplistic!!

Thanks for the update @Phever
Was hoping the September shipment would have the power adaptor. Looks like you have got a confirmation from Mitsi NZ that it does not 😢

Time to buy an inverter❗ I have been looking at options providing 100— 500 W ranging between $35— $80

I am also awaiting my PHEV — last I heard, delivery date was 28 Sep

Stay safe hopefully you are not in Auckland where we seem to be in lockdown for another 10 days

GaganKeshav

· #8 · Sep 5, 2021

If you don't mind sharing, what date did you book your vehicles on?
I booked on 13th August and got a delivery date of 5th November, which kind of doesn't add up.
I'm in Wellington, and before I actually booked, I called up a number of dealers in Auckland and here in Welly as well, all quoting delivery dates till max first week of October.
But when I did book however, I was quoted a delivery date of November.

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Phever

· #9 · Sep 6, 2021

GaganKeshav said:
If you don't mind sharing, what date did you book your vehicles on?
I booked on 13th August and got a delivery date of 5th November, which kind of doesn't add up.
I'm in Wellington, and before I actually booked, I called up a number of dealers in Auckland and here in Welly as well, all quoting delivery dates till max first week of October.
But when I did book however, I was quoted a delivery date of November.

Booked ours 30 June and it arrived in NZ last week. Outside of AKL so with level 2 as from Wednesday should get it in a few days once the dealership has prepared and registered it.
The inverter sounds a good idea. Still reckon the connector for the outlet will be on the loom as I can't imagine Mitisi would have a different loom for the tiny NZ market.
Have you seen this, really interesting at the factory

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Cheers

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GaganKeshav

· #10 · Sep 6, 2021

Phever said:
Booked ours 30 June and it arrived in NZ last week. Outside of AKL so with level 2 as from Wednesday should get it in a few days once the dealership has prepared and registered it.
The inverter sounds a good idea. Still reckon the connector for the outlet will be on the loom as I can't imagine Mitisi would have a different loom for the tiny NZ market.
Have you seen this, really interesting at the factory

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Cheers

Toyota offers delivery in level 3 as well, so I believe Mitzi should have offered deliveries in Level 3 too..
And yeah, I've seen that video too..there are hardly any videos that I haven't watched yet now..even the one's in Japanese, Polish and German

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pumanz

· #11 · Sep 8, 2021

Phever said:
Waiting on delivery of a PHEV. I contacted Mitsi head office in NZ and they too confirmed NO power socket on NZ models. They also replied that a socket could not be retro fitted. I had wondered if these vehicles come out of the factory all with the same loom meaning that there could potentially be a connector available behind the panels/trim. Perhaps I'm being a bit simplistic!!

Thank you for sharing the update @Phever , did Mitsubishi NZ office say why it’s not on the NZ model? Is it something to do with legislation or cost issue? Strange that they will make NZ models without it so there must be a reason for it. Thanks

AANZ

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 8, 2021

pumanz said:
Thank you for sharing the update @Phever , did Mitsubishi NZ office say why it’s not on the NZ model? Is it something to do with legislation or cost issue? Strange that they will make NZ models without it so there must be a reason for it. Thanks

Promotion videos show every country except NZ & AU are getting the power plug 😢

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AANZ

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 8, 2021

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Phever

· #14 · Sep 9, 2021

pumanz said:
Thank you for sharing the update @Phever , did Mitsubishi NZ office say why it’s not on the NZ model? Is it something to do with legislation or cost issue? Strange that they will make NZ models without it so there must be a reason for it. Thanks

Hi Pumanz. This is the reply from Mitsi NZ - no real reason given:
The information you have found is not from Mitsubishi Motors NZ (MMNZ) and has been incorrectly released from Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC) in Japan, the reference to Australia and NZ having this 220/240V 1500W socket feature is an error. We are in the process of getting this misinformation retracted from the MMC website.

Any other reviews from around the world you may find online are out of our control. We recommend to only use the MMNZ website as a source for information about the Mitsubishi vehicles which are released in New Zealand.

Unfortunately, it is also not possible to have this socket feature retro fitted.

We do apologise for the misinformation you found on the MMC website and we hope to see this rectified soon so as to not confuse other customers.

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AANZ

Discussion Starter · #15 · Sep 9, 2021

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Phever said:
Hi Pumanz. This is the reply from Mitsi NZ - no real reason given:
The information you have found is not from Mitsubishi Motors NZ (MMNZ) and has been incorrectly released from Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC) in Japan, the reference to Australia and NZ having this 220/240V 1500W socket feature is an error. We are in the process of getting this misinformation retracted from the MMC website.

Any other reviews from around the world you may find online are out of our control. We recommend to only use the MMNZ website as a source for information about the Mitsubishi vehicles which are released in New Zealand.

Unfortunately, it is also not possible to have this socket feature retro fitted.

We do apologise for the misinformation you found on the MMC website and we hope to see this rectified soon so as to not confuse other customers.

Hi @Phever
Thanks for the update.

Please send this 👇 link to whoever replied to you from Mitsi. This is DT 9 September❗
This is already happening... Mitsi is not only supplying but also promoting this feature in AU 🤔
Clearly lot of confusion... Let's not call it POWER PLUG. Let's call it V2L

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Also V2L technology is not new for Mitsubishi. The highlighted parts are what Mitsubishi are saying...

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We all shall still buy the car; with or without V2L; Mitsi should really show leadership and upgrade existing cars with a retrofit kit. Is someone from Mitsubishi reading this❓ I do hope so 😃

Have a great weekend all & stay safe❗

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AANZ

Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 9, 2021

AANZ said:
Hi @Phever
Thanks for the update.

Please send this 👇 link to whoever replied to you from Mitsi. This is DT 9 September❗
This is already happening... Mitsi is not only supplying but also promoting this feature in AU 🤔
Clearly lot of confusion... Let's not call it POWER PLUG. Let's call it V2L View attachment 1408

Also V2L technology is not new for Mitsubishi. The highlighted parts are what Mitsubishi are saying...

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We all shall still buy the car; with or without V2L; Mitsi should really show leadership and upgrade existing cars with a retrofit kit. Is someone from Mitsubishi reading this❓ I do hope so 😃

Have a great weekend all & stay safe❗

Mitsubishi Motors’ Eclipse Cross PHEV delivers morning coffee in Adelaide - Electrical connection

Mitsubishi Motors Eclipse Cross Plug-in Hybrid EV (PHEV) will serve coffee to South Australians over the next three weeks as part of a V2L concept vehicle demonstration. The tour marks the introduction of the new PHEV vehicle to the market this month, in time for World EV Day (09.09.2021)...

electricalconnection.com.au

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... and another site
this is all over the internet

au.newschant.com

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross PHEV delivers morning coffee in Adelaide - News Chant Australia

To have fun its arrival at Australian dealerships in September together with World EV Day on September 9, the Mitsubishi Motors Eclipse Cross Plug-in Hybrid EV (PHEV) is serving coffee to South Australians in the course of the subsequent three weeks as a part of a vehicle-to-load (V2L) idea...

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DibbyDibbyDJ

· #17 · Sep 9, 2021

Not quite the same as having a 240v socket.

This concept demonstration is to demonstrate what the system could do. The idea was realised after the Japanese Tsunami disaster, where MMC supplied iMiEV's to destroyed neigbourhoods so they could get a basic power supply.

On the MMC global website have been many conceptual ideas, including this one for a few years now, with one memorable one where the Family take their concept vehicle to stay in a isolated off grid cabin, plug in the car, and the vehicle battery supplies ALL of their power, with solar panels charging the car during the day.

There are many technology concerns to implementing this system into our power grid, with the main one being when a power cut occurs, and someone plugs their EV to the grid to give them power at their house, and the line workers get electrocuted as the power back feeds to the damaged line.

A simple 240v powerpiont via a voltage convertor is not a new idea. Pajero sport Exceed models and some Outlanders have had one for a few years, But they are only convertors with a reasonably low output. This concept Is a full power supply.

You could easily buy a more powerful convertor, similar to what they use in Caravans, but the limiting factor would be the 12v battery in the Plug in Hybrid Outlander and ECross, which has a low CCA capacity, so would need substantially upgrading

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zarbs

· #18 · Sep 27, 2021

New review on the EVCentral web site in Australia of the Oz model. It notes that the V2G tech is awaiting Australian regulatory approval so new owners may see it in the near future. Review is here, posted September 24:

evcentral.com.au

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Phever

· #19 · Sep 27, 2021

I followed up with Mitsi NZ as follows:
I am still seeing Australia promoting the 240v power outlet in the cargo area.
Another question is V2G/H bidirectional charging (News Release | Mitsubishi Motors Corporation).
I understand that the EC Phev will support this if the correct plug in system is installed in the house. I have also come across the Mitsubishi Dendo Drive House system (DENDO DRIVE HOUSE | 2019 Geneva International Motor Show | MITSUBISHI MOTORS JAPAN Dendo Drive Station – Powercuts as part of the sales process? – Autotalk).
Could you please provide some advice on what is needed for this in a home (we have solar) and the cost of the Dendo Drive House system.

This is the Mitsi NZ response - Not exactly innovative and seem to be isolating from Mitsubishi International vision:
Our technicians have provided the following in regards to your queries:
“V2G or V2H is not available in NZ as the devices required do not yet meet NZ Electrical Regulations.
V2H is not a plug arrangement but a significantly costly device which if available would allow for 2 way use of the EV battery but only while the mains power supply is also available. The devices do not work when there is a mains power failure. Homes would also need to be configured to allow controlled use of the battery and mains power.
This is not a simple or cheap process even if/when it might become available.”
As previously mentioned, we do not recommend to look on overseas websites to research information about New Zealand models. What is mentioned on an overseas website may not necessarily apply to our NZ models.
Kind regards,

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Biju G

· #20 · Dec 3, 2021

Phever said:
Waiting on delivery of a PHEV. I contacted Mitsi head office in NZ and they too confirmed NO power socket on NZ models. They also replied that a socket could not be retro fitted. I had wondered if these vehicles come out of the factory all with the same loom meaning that there could potentially be a connector available behind the panels/trim. Perhaps I'm being a bit simplistic!!

got the car 3 days back, no AC power outlet,, i think 59k is too much for this phev. disappointed.

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