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As the title says, there's always going to be competition and the Eclipse Cross will square off against the new Jeep Compass, the Kia Sportage, Subaru Crosstrek, and the Hyundai Tucson.

Just want to hear everyone's take on the models and which one stands out.
 

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The new Jeep Compass actually looks really good, but doesn't look like anything modern. Just a smaller GC in my opinion. Nonetheless, they did a good job as it's leaps and bounds nicer than it was before.

Unfortunately, based on aesthetics alone, which is big to me, the Mitsubishi Cross looks way better.
 

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This Eclipse is a refreshing change and its my primary reason for even being here. I like the Subaru and Hyundai mentioned but with so many models out from both brands its easy to see how diluted things got.
 

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It's main challenge will be overcoming the already established competition's notoriety. Mitsubishi isn't exactly the most well known brand out there and they'll be hard pressed to move a lot of Eclipse Crosses no matter how good the little SUV is.
 

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It's main challenge will be overcoming the already established competition's notoriety. Mitsubishi isn't exactly the most well known brand out there and they'll be hard pressed to move a lot of Eclipse Crosses no matter how good the little SUV is.
Very true and that being the case they will be better off being consistently good as a brand to sell these small in proportion to Buick and other smaller volume car makers. For a very long time Buick has been operating like that and they still exist today. Down the road Mitsubishi might have to partner up with another brand to really ramp up volume
 

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Maybe over time they can be known as the company that builds reliable cars because Toyota vehicles aren't what they used to be and people I know who used to be fans are looking elsewhere.
 

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Maybe over time they can be known as the company that builds reliable cars because Toyota vehicles aren't what they used to be and people I know who used to be fans are looking elsewhere.
It will take many years to develop that but Toyota is still at the top, just look at what some new studies have been reporting and you will see how well they rank.
With all the new features cars come with these days its hard to maintain the same level of reliability and dependability they had 20 years back. Better than most is good enough.
 

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I've found this great comparison chart on autoblog. The 2018 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross is pitted against the 2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2018 Toyota C-HR and 2018 Nissan Rogue Sport. Looking at the chart, they've concluded that the Cross and Crosstrek are the better "all-weather, go-anywhere" choices. I suppose it's then down to which one you find more appealing.

 

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Its important to note that the Eclipse is the only model in that chart that has a turbocharged engine. For those considering aftermarket modifications, that's a selling point alone. Both the CH-R and Rogue Sport have been criticized for having lackluster performance, especially off the line.
 

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The chart should list the Eclipse Cross as having Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. At least in the UK, all variants come with CarPlay/Auto included.
 

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Its important to note that the Eclipse is the only model in that chart that has a turbocharged engine. For those considering aftermarket modifications, that's a selling point alone. Both the CH-R and Rogue Sport have been criticized for having lackluster performance, especially off the line.
I don't know that I'd position the EC against the Rogue. Having now seen an EC up close and in person, I'm thinking it's more likely up against the Juke—which makes 20% more horsepower (188).

My wife fell in love with the Juke at the LA Auto Show back in 2010. I tried getting her into an Outlander Sport, but once she got her first taste of boost that was it. Game over.

In terms of the aftermarket benefit, the fact that this is a factory turbocharged Mitsubishi is a huge plus. We haven't had one of those in years. Direct injection is also a major plus, as it potentially makes fuel system upgrades unnecessary as well. However the CVT is a real kick in the nuts. They're more fun than I think anyone would like to admit around town (says the guy who occasionally drives a 2011 Juke SV FWD CVT), but I think the general consensus is they're not made for big power.

Part of the reason why I'm here. I wanna make sure the rest of the Mitsu Familia knows where these machines shine.
 

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The CVT for me is the best thing! I have tried all types of automatic gearboxes.
Torque converter - eats most of the power and is slow on shifting
Dualclutch - works pretty well. Especially the getrag brand placed in Renault but still could be a little bit shaky. The VAG DSG is a little bit worse.
Drove CVT in Nissan mikra an liked it - once you are used to it.
In love with the EC CVT - feels like dual clutch but smoother. Yes, there is some lag and rubber band feeling but we also have 140kmh at 2400 rpm.
 

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2400rpm @ 140kmh? Not bad at all.

CVTs definitely have their perks, but I feel they may prove a weak link at some point. That's all.
 

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Sorry, guys - nothing about this CVT is a positive. Regardless of what paper says.

1. Tuning for "stepped" / simulated gears is horrible, and you can experience it by noticing random drops in RPM when downshifting. Why?
2. The final drive ratio on the CVT is so high (6.386!!!) that totally disregards any kind of benefit the turbocharged engine. I guess it needs it to get as much torque at lower RPMs , that you really lose that feeling of having "power on demand" at higher speeds!
3. The CVT does NOTHING to improve fuel efficiency for this vehicle. You have to rev so hard to even get the car up to speed (again, notice Final Drive Ratio comment above) on an on-ramp that you can say goodbye to your MPG. Definitely not smiles per gallon here.
4. Good luck trying to tune the vehicle for more HP/TQ. The Jatco CVT is easily the single weakest link in any Mitsubishi designed in recent years.

Final comment: The CVT is a non-serviceable unit. That means, if you break it, you replace the whole thing. This is the one thing in your Cross that might as well be sold by Walmart. You can't buy performance parts for it. You can't even replace it without buying a whole new one. And, oh - NO ONE knows how to tune this thing. So, good luck trying to get any better performance from it.

Mitsubishi should have just kept their contracts with Aisin-Warner or … better... Getrag. Either of the two would have made WORLDs of difference in both how the vehicle performs by design, … or could, if modified.
 

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Pity you don't get the 6 speed manual box in the states. It harnesses all the available horse power and gives a great drive.
I admit I'm not keen on automatics. preferring to do my own gear changing.
But there are good reasons for having automatic gearbox and I suppose it can make life easier for many people.
 
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Maybe. I certainly would like to drive one with a manual transmission at least once to feel the difference (if there is any). I don't see the performance or reliability issues, though. I've been driving Mitsubishi automatic transmissions for the last 20+ years and they never gave me any of the problems that Mazda or GM did. Maybe they addressed the tuning of the CVT's since 2018. All I know id that I don't have any complaints with performance, power or economy.
 

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The new Jeep Compass actually looks really good, but doesn't look like anything modern. Just a smaller GC in my opinion. Nonetheless, they did a good job as it's leaps and bounds nicer than it was before.

Unfortunately, based on aesthetics alone, which is big to me, the Mitsubishi Cross looks way better.
My options were compass or EC and I’m glad I went with BB Mitsu so far
 
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