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My Mitsubishi Eclipse DRL functions well.
However, when I turn the switch to position lamp, the DRL dims, but no other lamp switches on.

Is this normal?

I would have expected a dedicated position lamp to light up, but none did.
I discussed it with the dealer, but he could not provide an explanation.
Any views?
 

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My Mitsubishi Eclipse DRL functions well.
However, when I turn the switch to position lamp, the DRL dims, but no other lamp switches on.

Is this normal?

I would have expected a dedicated position lamp to light up, but none did.
I discussed it with the dealer, but he could not provide an explanation.
Any views?
I was driving in the rain yesterday with just my DRL's on, as my Auto-On didn't think it was dark enough, and had another EC with all lights on follow me into a service (gas) station. I noted that the other EC turned their lights off manually. As they did this the DRL's, which were dim brighten which is normal practice. The yellowish position lamp came on just before switch off within the same location as the headlight. They had halogen headlights with no Auto-On function. My EC has LED headlights and Auto-On and if you switch them on manually there is no position lamp as found with the halogens but the DRL's do dim. I think it is just a function of the switch that is unused in LED lighted EC's. Funny but this same issue came to mind yesterday when I saw the behaviour of the other EC model. The setup of these lamps and lights varies around the world. The US have a small side mounted front (white) and rear (red) position lamp inside the lamp cluster which is not fitted to any other geo as far as I know.
 

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The US have a small side mounted front (white) and rear (red) position lamp inside the lamp cluster which is not fitted to any other geo as far as I know.
Yes we do. I didn't realize that we were the only ones who require that. I watched a video recently that showed an EC with headlight washers. Now that would be cool.
 

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Yes we do. I didn't realize that we were the only ones who require that. I watched a video recently that showed an EC with headlight washers. Now that would be cool.
Headlight washers are required by some EU countries. They are mandatory for Bi-Xenon headlights in the EU and Australia.

I would love to have the full rear tail light across the tail spoiler activated (either side of the high level LED stop lamp). That option is only available in the US as well.
 

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I would love to have the full rear tail light across the tail spoiler activated (either side of the high level LED stop lamp). That option is only available in the US as well.
We have full tail light in Turkey. I think all European countries have them.
 

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We have full tail light in Turkey. I think all European countries have them.
Yeah I think we missed out. Power loom plug is on the tailgate under the trim but only has a two wire plug on the down side powering the high level stop lamp. The upstream side of the plug is fully wired so I would assume it is carrying the required power for the outer lamps. The outer lamps are dummy and have no illumination in them on the Australian models so would need complete replacement. Around AU$127 each for the lamps on AliExpress but I'd need to source the harness from a US dealer and they're around US$150 plus shipping. To buy the whole thing (lamps and harness) from a US dealer or parts source would be around AU$900 shipped but they'd be genuine parts. Not worth looking at currently plus the lamp assembly and the garnish are bolted together and the garnish is held on by clips which refuse to budge and it's too close to glass for me to start forcing stuff. I'll have to live without it...
 

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So after my last post I went back and concentrated on removing the tail garnish with the stop and tail lights attached. Just a little bit more force and the pins separated from the tailgate without issue. Found a large build up of dust and grime under the garnish that I was able to clean off. None of the locating pins were damaged.

As I thought, the two wire wiring harness for the stop lamp simply runs into an internal mount behind the right tail lamp and then runs back to the high level stop lamp. Both tail lamps are dummy with no port for the fitment of a bulb into the housing. I have ordered the SEL sub harness for these lights from a US dealer and will check out the fitness for the job once it arrives and before ordering any light housings. Once I get started I will open a thread on it so as to keep this thread for its original subject.
 

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Shelved the idea. I checked Australian Design Rules for lighting and it turns out the reason we have the tails are disabled is because it is illegal in Australia to group the high level stop lamp with any other lamp. The tail lamps and high level stop lamp being a group once enabled. Strange but true.
 

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I am of the belief that those dummy end light only need bulbs and harness to work... the hole/slot can be cut out n install bulb... i will be taking on this project soon.
Zarb can I have the harness code please
 

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Hi @Willisjamaica, the harness is shown in the diagram below. The actual replacement lights are available from a seller on AliExpress with the correct lighting. I have had the rear end off and the lights in Australia have the harness into the tailgate and then the single high level stop lamp runs from that. My understanding is the full harness runs from this plug into the tailgate and then the stop light plugs into that harness in place of its normal position. The harness into the tailgate has four cores but the stop uses only two. The other two are for the tails and ground.

I had ordered the harness from these guys:

[email protected]

but cancelled the order. Here is the detail from my cancelled order (US$):

Part Number​
Part Name​
Price​
Quantity​
Total​
8526A110​
Harness​
$146.74​
1​
$146.74

The full tails are here:


1071
 

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Hi @Willisjamaica, the harness is shown in the diagram below. The actual replacement lights are available from a seller on AliExpress with the correct lighting. I have had the rear end off and the lights in Australia have the harness into the tailgate and then the single high level stop lamp runs from that. My understanding is the full harness runs from this plug into the tailgate and then the stop light plugs into that harness in place of its normal position. The harness into the tailgate has four cores but the stop uses only two. The other two are for the tails and ground.

I had ordered the harness from these guys:

[email protected]

but cancelled the order. Here is the detail from my cancelled order (US$):

Part Number​
Part Name​
Price​
Quantity​
Total​
8526A110​
Harness​
$146.74​
1​
$146.74​

The full tails are here:

[/URL]

View attachment 1071
Hi @Willisjamaica, the harness is shown in the diagram below. The actual replacement lights are available from a seller on AliExpress with the correct lighting. I have had the rear end off and the lights in Australia have the harness into the tailgate and then the single high level stop lamp runs from that. My understanding is the full harness runs from this plug into the tailgate and then the stop light plugs into that harness in place of its normal position. The harness into the tailgate has four cores but the stop uses only two. The other two are for the tails and ground.

I had ordered the harness from these guys:

[email protected]

but cancelled the order. Here is the detail from my cancelled order (US$):

Part Number​
Part Name​
Price​
Quantity​
Total​
8526A110​
Harness​
$146.74​
1​
$146.74​

The full tails are here:

[/URL]

View attachment 1071
Thanks for the info....approximately $400 bit too pricey to buy those parts...guess I have to make my own harness, I have the wiring diagram... and I am going to inspect the dummy lights as I think a hole can be made for bulk socket... only issue would be if illuminated area blocked off.
 

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approximately $400 bit too pricey to buy those parts
Yep. Not a cheap mod. The advantage of the full harness is that your stop light plugs into it and no problems with patching. No longer something on my to do list...
 

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Yep. Not a cheap mod. The advantage of the full harness is that your stop light plugs into it and no problems with patching. No longer something on my to do list...
Yea true....but i plan on using universal bulb n sockets at park tail light at both end......and only have the main socket connection to contend with...... but i will take up the task of getting these ends light working and at a very low cost.
 

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Yeah I think we missed out. Power loom plug is on the tailgate under the trim but only has a two wire plug on the down side powering the high level stop lamp. The upstream side of the plug is fully wired so I would assume it is carrying the required power for the outer lamps. The outer lamps are dummy and have no illumination in them on the Australian models so would need complete replacement. Around AU$127 each for the lamps on AliExpress but I'd need to source the harness from a US dealer and they're around US$150 plus shipping. To buy the whole thing (lamps and harness) from a US dealer or parts source would be around AU$900 shipped but they'd be genuine parts. Not worth looking at currently plus the lamp assembly and the garnish are bolted together and the garnish is held on by clips which refuse to budge and it's too close to glass for me to start forcing stuff. I'll have to live without it...
I did my checks today and its as you describe... only 2 wires are send to the brake light ...however the other side of harness has full 5 wires, 2 grounds (1 for brake light n other black for park end lights...
I went further to test if theres power for park light at harness and there is ...so no need for fuse as the system fully works.
The existing tail light wire harness can can accommodate the additional wire and use the correct pin size and push into connector... (so as to get 5 wires on either side)....
As for the light unit it self, i bore a small hole into the dummy/block area n shine a light through and the unit lit up ....however a bit concern about the light coverage area as it barely reach to the other end....... hence I need to see pic of the bulb or part# ... although enough light wasn't projected into small hole... but concern tht it didn't spread wider, maybe brighter bulb would do better. However it do able ..... if h8 bulb don't light up properly then I guess I will open up n place some leds in side.

Other checks done also reveal that all feature add can be done by acquiring parts and install.
Future feature I plan on installing;
.HUD display.... just need unit n control button. ( dash area would need to be cut out)

FCM/ACC...distance radar and button needed.
Note: front mount location doesn't have connector... but wires are wrap up.

360° camera... front camera (have already), existing rear camera, side mirror with camera ( expense n very hard to find), steering wheel button (readily available) and camera control ecu (have already)

BSW ... 2 x rear radar, brackets and same side mirror used in 360°

LDW ... I am not sure about, need to do some research and verify that connector exist n if it can be use with existing windscreen.

Smart link radio ....I have parts ready to install... just waiting on double usb slot... along with an hdmi adapter.... I am just sorry that theres no software to watch video on these unit ... I need a work around solution.
Power tailgate... need to purchase and install
 

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Sounds like it should all come together.

A note of warning on the tailgate running lights. You show a QLD rego in your pics and Australian Design Rules (ADR's) forbid the high level stop light from being mounted with any other light cluster like the EC's spoiler tails. It is my understanding that this is the reason Australia does not have them enabled and hence the reason why I didn't go ahead with this mod. Adding a light to this area would effectively defect your EC under the ADR's and you could see the police making you a target if they are aware of those ADR's. In your position you should be able to get clarification from MMA support.

The relevant ADR section FYI (6.4.7 through 6.4.9):

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Sounds like it should all come together.

A note of warning on the tailgate running lights. You show a QLD rego in your pics and Australian Design Rules (ADR's) forbid the high level stop light from being mounted with any other light cluster like the EC's spoiler tails. It is my understanding that this is the reason Australia does not have them enabled and hence the reason why I didn't go ahead with this mod. Adding a light to this area would effectively defect your EC under the ADR's and you could see the police making you a target if they are aware of those ADR's. In your position you should be able to get clarification from MMA support.

The relevant ADR section FYI (6.4.7 through 6.4.9):

View attachment 1083
No such rules on book...we just so happen to get these model because of general region...and most new model car in jamaica are source from Japan and Australia markets due to right hand drive. .. so I am good to go on light... I just need to get stock light bulb socket harness or see a pic to verify that h8 bulb would be enough to lit along the whole lamp.
 
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