Strange Shape of Hi-Beam Light

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JBPatry

Discussion Starter · Dec 28, 2020 (Edited)

The light pattern of the hi-beams is in the shape of a very narrow peak centered between the two lo-beams only increasing the light in the middle of the road ahead. I have the H7 halogen bulbs, anybody know of a better lamp choice for my 2019 EC SE? The Hi-Beam and Lo-Beam seem to be in the same bulb or light position
Tx,

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mxhdroom

· #2 · Dec 28, 2020

Yes, I've noticed that too. I thought I would revisit the dealer for a re-aiming, but if yours looks the same, perhaps they're not out of whack. I certainly would like a bit more coverage on the road ahead, rather than the trees ahead, but I don't believe a bulb change would accomplish that. It would seem it's more a matter of reflector/lens shape and aiming.

Hopefully others will add their opinions. Oh, and welcome to the forums, BTW!

MrJEHowley

· #3 · Dec 29, 2020

I agree, the beam shape on high looks..odd...to say the least. Not super worried about what the bats are doing well above the road, more worried about just being able to see more of the road, and what is to each side. It seems that is just the style of reflector they used.

Telferstr

· #4 · Dec 29, 2020

Have a similar problem but with the dip beam though the dealer assures me the alignment is correct. I'm finding the dip position of the lights are pointing too much to the kerb area but they insist they are correct.
They do not light up the road immediately in front of the road ahead, and could do with moving the beam more to the centre of the side of the road you are travelling in. However, dealer says they are correct on their alignment rig and legally correct and will not adjust.

Mountainsofbeer

· #5 · Dec 31, 2020 (Edited)

JBPatry said:
The light pattern of the hi-beams is in the shape of a very narrow peak centered between the two lo-beams only increasing the light in the middle of the road ahead. I have the H7 halogen bulbs, anybody know of a better lamp choice for my 2019 EC SE? The Hi-Beam and Lo-Beam seem to be in the same bulb or light position
Tx,

It works well for seeing far down highway, and in my EC the low beam is too low and you can't adjust one without the other so I tend to agree. I added cheap LED off road lights to my lower grill edit:see other post

zarbs

· #6 · Jan 1, 2021

LED headlights here in Oz on my EC. Plus, living rural I have my LED lightbar mounted in the nudge bar (see the Nudge Bar thread). I find the LED low beam headlights have a good beam form and the high beam is not bad either but, to dodge kangaroos and the like, the lightbar is a necessity to get the visibility out to an acceptable distance for high speed, windy country road, driving. The lightbar has both flood and spot LED's so it gives a good coverage near and far. Placed the same lightbar on our new pickup/ute.

Mountainsofbeer

· #7 · Jan 1, 2021 (Edited)

I'd rather have the bar and single led unit like Zarbs but this was my solution. These work like really bright foglights not so much a low-beam replacement. But I pretty much nailed the aiming of them for driving in snow or fog at night or early morning where highbeams are useless.

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Mountainsofbeer

· #8 · Jan 6, 2021

I don't mean to add to this but I just realized that the blue high-beam indicater light on the dashboard is so bright that it screws up my night vision, maybe I'm sensitive but its common sense stuff. all the more reason for aftermarket lights. I don't think anyone at Mitsubishi understands how eyes work anymore lol.

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Kevin96k

· #9 · Jan 15, 2021

We have two 2019 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL Touring’s so they came with led headlights but halogen fogs. I put led fog bulbs in. I also just changed my co-workers 2019 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE to led headlights and fog lights. I always order the same kind that are the good sylvania ones that come with everything built into the bulb to stop errors or anything. These are awesome headlights and if you change out your headlight and fog light bulbs it will make all the difference. You can see in the pic with the new headlight and old fog light. We had upgraded her original head and fogs to a better halogen type bulb but were still not good enuf so went to full led and wow. how it looks and I will post a link.

mxhdroom said:
Yes, I've noticed that too. I thought I would revisit the dealer for a re-aiming, but if yours looks the same, perhaps they're not out of whack. I certainly would like a bit more coverage on the road ahead, rather than the trees ahead, but I don't believe a bulb change would accomplish that. It would seem it's more a matter of reflector/lens shape and aiming.

Hopefully others will add their opinions. Oh, and welcome to the forums, BTW!

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Kevin96k

· #10 · Jan 15, 2021

mxhdroom said:
Yes, I've noticed that too. I thought I would revisit the dealer for a re-aiming, but if yours looks the same, perhaps they're not out of whack. I certainly would like a bit more coverage on the road ahead, rather than the trees ahead, but I don't believe a bulb change would accomplish that. It would seem it's more a matter of reflector/lens shape and aiming.

Hopefully others will add their opinions. Oh, and welcome to the forums, BTW!

Kevin96k said:
We have two 2019 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL Touring’s so they came with led headlights but halogen fogs. I put led fog bulbs in. I also just changed my co-workers 2019 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE to led headlights and fog lights. I always order the same kind that are the good sylvania ones that come with everything built into the bulb to stop errors or anything. These are awesome headlights and if you change out your headlight and fog light bulbs it will make all the difference. You can see in the pic with the new headlight and old fog light. We had upgraded her original head and fogs to a better halogen type bulb but were still not good enuf so went to full led and wow. how it looks and I will post a link.
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Kevin96k

· #11 · Jan 15, 2021

Kevin96k said:
We have two 2019 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL Touring’s so they came with led headlights but halogen fogs. I put led fog bulbs in. I also just changed my co-workers 2019 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE to led headlights and fog lights. I always order the same kind that are the good sylvania ones that come with everything built into the bulb to stop errors or anything. These are awesome headlights and if you change out your headlight and fog light bulbs it will make all the difference. You can see in the pic with the new headlight and old fog light. We had upgraded her original head and fogs to a better halogen type bulb but were still not good enuf so went to full led and wow. how it looks and I will post a link.
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One original Halogen Fog and 1 Sylvania LED Fog.

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Kevin96k

· #12 · Jan 15, 2021

i either Use the Sylvania or this Auxito brand. Both are pricy but they are high quality, last long and do not let any water or condensation in to the headlight housings like some cheaper models do with the cooling fans built into the bulbs. These work great and I have installed them on several peoples cars and our own.

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Willisjamaica

· #13 · Jan 18, 2021

Telferstr said:
Have a similar problem but with the dip beam though the dealer assures me the alignment is correct. I'm finding the dip position of the lights are pointing too much to the kerb area but they insist they are correct.
They do not light up the road immediately in front of the road ahead, and could do with moving the beam more to the centre of the side of the road you are travelling in. However, dealer says they are correct on their alignment rig and legally correct and will not adjust.

While I understand what your saying they are in correct position... not the optimal, but correct.
Headlights are to shine to the curb and not straight ahead as we tend to adjust them .... this is so to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. For visual of immediate front turn on fog lights (thats what they are for)
High beam tend to focus high and is not necessarily for only road up ahead but for area visibility.
For those with level adjustment you can choose to throw your headlights way ahead on road, n turn on fog lights to fill the immediate gap at front of vehicle

Telferstr

· #14 · Jan 18, 2021 (Edited)

With regard to the use of Fog Lights. In real terms in the UK, it is illegal to use Fog Lamps other than when it is in Fog or in snowfall conditions. We can be fined for illegal use of Fog Lights.
My only disappointment with my Eclipse Cross is the very poor performance of its Headlights in comparison with those fitted to my 2016 ASX ( Outlander Sport in USA) which were wonderful in lighting up the road immediately front of you and also the kerb areas on both sides of the road. This feature did not seem to cause any distress or problems to approaching traffics drivers in the time of my ownership, nobody every flashed their main beam light in annoyance at me.
The Eclipse Cross is very poor in the Headlight performance department in my book, it spoils the ownership of the car when driving at night, as they do restrict your vision of the road ahead to an unacceptable degree.
Had I known of this short coming, it would have possibly put me off buying the car in the first place. A shame really, as I am otherwise extremely pleased with the car.

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Willisjamaica

· #15 · Jan 18, 2021

Funny that use of

Telferstr said:
With regard to the use of Fog Lights. In real terms in the UK, it is illegal to use Fog Lamps other than when it is in Fog or in snowfall conditions. We can be fined for illegal use of Fog Lights.
My only disappointment with my Eclipse Cross is the very poor performance of its Headlights in comparison with those fitted to my 2016 ASX ( Outlander Sport in USA) which were wonderful in lighting up the road immediately front of you and also the kerb areas on both sides of the road. This feature did not seem to cause any distress or problems to approaching traffics drivers in the time of my ownership, nobody every flashed their main beam light in annoyance at me.
The Eclipse Cross is very poor in the Headlight performance department in my book, it spoils the ownership of the car when driving at night, as they do restrict your vision of the road ahead to an unacceptable degree.
Had I known of this short coming, it would have possibly put me off buying the car in the first place. A shame really, as I am otherwise extremely pleased with the car.

Fog lights are illegal in uk especially the fact that these newer foglights are mounted much lower and is directed to immediate vicinity of vehicle.
I can understand if they where mounted high though.
I had use the lights on EC last night after viewing this topic and they were fine, I notice in lit areas the h-light wasn't tht pronounce like asx but once in dark area I could clearly see where the coverage line are and they fine .... high beam is not as good as ASX n I think this is due to EC not able to independently adjust high beam from low beam.....but I had great visual when using lights. Gonna compare asx and EC lights tonight and post.

Lunatic59

· #16 · Jan 18, 2021

We are talking about the standard Halogen lights and not the LED projectors? I have the latter and have zero complaints about visibility, even with my old eyes.

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Willisjamaica

· #17 · Jan 18, 2021

Lunatic59 said:
We are talking about the standard Halogen lights and not the LED projectors? I have the latter and have zero complaints about visibility, even with my old eyes.

So as I have believe its not really how light are directed but brightness... as on a lit area it seems poor but when I view in dark there are projected properly

Telferstr

· #18 · Jan 19, 2021 (Edited)

Lunatic59 said:
We are talking about the standard Halogen lights and not the LED projectors? I have the latter and have zero complaints about visibility, even with my old eyes.

Hi Luna 59. Don't like calling you a Lunatic

. They are Halogen bulbs and I'm looking to replace them with the higher performance halogen bulbs but not sure that this would cure the problem, as It is the direction of the beams aim, that seems to be the issue. The Headlights on the ASX were the later Wide Beam type they fitted to the 16/17 and possibly later model year cars. They were great lights, I think that it is the wide beam element of these lights performance that I'm actually missing.
As a matter of interest, do cars with the Led Headlight make use of the empty area of the headlight unit, or does it still remain empty. I always think this area of the headlight should have a bulb in it.
As an alternative to uprating the current bulbs, I'm wondering if it is possible to change the lamp unit to the Led type. Did send an e-mail to Mitsubishi asking if this could be done and at what cost, but did not get reply back. This to be fair is unusual, because in the past they have always replied back to any e-mail very promptly indeed.. Maybe a sign of the times, with people being made redundant etc., due to their withdrawal from Britain and European markets.

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Lunatic59

· #19 · Jan 19, 2021

I've seen the halogen LED swap done on some Subaru's but I think Mitsubishi is new to the LED game. I don't think there would be a problem with the fit or the wiring, but I would guess you may need to replace the housing and the lenses and possible some trim.

Lunatic [ loo-'NAH-tick] et. Middle English: from Old French lunatique, from late Latin lunaticus, from Latin luna ‘moon’ (from the belief that the moon caused intermittent insanity).

@Lunatic59 <<-- Family name "Moon" originally "Mohn" from the German, meaning poppy.

So, while current use means a crazy person, it's origin is simply genealogical .... although both meanings are pretty accurate.

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Willisjamaica

· #20 · Feb 10, 2021

Mountainsofbeer said:
I don't mean to add to this but I just realized that the blue high-beam indicater light on the dashboard is so bright that it screws up my night vision, maybe I'm sensitive but its common sense stuff. all the more reason for aftermarket lights. I don't think anyone at Mitsubishi understands how eyes work anymore lol.

The dash light can be adjusted🤣

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